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B350 Motherboard 3 months 4 weeks ago #15196

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Hello everyone! :)

As the title says, I would like to know what would be the best B350 AM4 motherboard for CPU overclocking, the most solid VRM and quality mosfets as I heard on some GN video by Steve that VRM on AMD is much more important for OC than anything else when compared to intel chipsets etc. etc.
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B350 Motherboard 3 months 4 weeks ago #15201

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It's a bit early to say. I think more have to be released. Not so much for CPU O/C but more for RAM O/C.

Most Ryzen go to 4.0. Some to 4.1. But that's it. But bioses are improving all the time. Maybe 4.1 will become the norm. But I don't expect 4.2.
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B350 Motherboard 3 months 4 weeks ago #15207

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Okay, fair enough!

Most promising seems the MSI B350 Gaming Pro Carbon (6+2 phases, can you confirm?). but unfortunately, it's just listed here in the US, not available yet and even worse, who knows when it's going to be available in my country.

The MSI B350 Tomahawk seems the best on the B350 chipset that's available right now and you get the most bang for your buck with it, at least according to this site.

Although limited, it's the only one that allows you to overclock the memory by raising the base clock (through an UEFI beta bios update).

Only some motherboards that are on the X370 chipset overclock better than this one. They are Crosshair VI Hero, ASrock Taichi and Fatal1ty Professional Gaming, Gigabyte Gaming K3, K5 and K7.
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B350 Motherboard 3 months 3 weeks ago #15208

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As of yet, there's virtually no reviews of AM4 motherboards.

A guess of power phases is from counting the number of round shiny things lined up near the CPU

The Pro Carbon - www.msi.com/Motherboard/B350-GAMING-PRO-...oductFeature-section - looks like it has 7 phases.

Edit - just found this - wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-am4-motherboard-r...te-asrock-asus-x370/ which has phases. Pro Carbon has 10 (not 7 as I guessed above)
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B350 Motherboard 3 months 3 weeks ago #15212

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And why does this site say it has 4 + 2 phases? If you notice there, under CPU column, they wrote 4 + 2 on the controller and 4 x 2 (doubled) real phases on the CPU. So, it's actually 8 doubled phases and the other 2 are for the SOC VCC, which means the memory has 4 and not 2 phases? If that's so, it's actually overkill.... Then again, why BCK OC is not even possible, only tomahawk and the titanium. Something feels wrong here, smells fishy.... Hmm..... That's weird.

Nah, nevermind, I looked again and it indeed seems to be 10 phases and 2 for the SOC, right?
They must have mistyped or something.

BTW, there are a few reviews on the AM4 motheboards, particularly on the B350 Chipset including the Tomahawk, there's a review made by overclock3d and another for the Gigabyte AB350-Gaming 3 on Modders-Inc and LAN OC sites. If you may and have time to read the Tomahawk review, may you tell me what do you think afterwards?
Thank you again!
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B350 Motherboard 3 months 3 weeks ago #15213

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Yeah - it looks like it's 6 + 4 phases for the Carbon mobo. Maybe the translation from German to English is a bit weird.
It's what they call a dual channel controller - www.richtek.com/en/Products/Vcore/Vcore%20Controller/RT8894A

It looks like Crosshair is the best OC wise - www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboar...motherboard_review/8 - but Tomahawk is not far behind.
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B350 Motherboard 3 months 3 weeks ago #15214

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Glad we've got that one figured out!

In another train of thoughts, I am having a few bluescreens after POST every time I turn on my PC, then after it finishes writing the error, it restarts automatically and all goes back to normal. It happens every time, every day, I turn on the PC, just once.

Do you think it might be the memory's fault on this B350 Tomahawk motherboard?

It's not even listed on the compatibility site with the motheboard, I had to buy it as it was the only one available in store when my old motherboard died.
It's a model from Corsair "CMK8GX4M1A2400C16".

But now I can change to this one model "HX426C13SB2K2/8" from Kingston, do you think it would be better or it's just the early bugs from Ryzen that cause those BSOD and not the memory?

Another question, I am a bit of a noob when it comes to memory frequency, that Ryzen is officially 2400 MHz, that Kingston is 2667 MHz, that means I will have to manually overclock (or A-XMP) the memory in the bios to 2667 before using it at it's default freq or if I set it on auto it's still going to autodetect the frequency? (I know it's actually 1333 x 2, but forgot what it's called xD)

Thanks
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B350 Motherboard 3 months 3 weeks ago #15216

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If you fit an internal speaker and look up what type (ami, etc) bios the mobo uses you should be able to work out whats wrong from the POST/Beep code - www.computerhope.com/beep.htm

Ryzen works a fair bit better with fast ram. And, at this stage, you really do have to get something either off the memory QVL list for the motherboard (or a mobo on the Motherboard compatibility list for the ram).
The ram will self overclock to its rated speed if its XMP/AMP (AMD version of XMP) certified. The B350 Tomahawk will do that for ram rated at up to 3200MHz. All you have to do is click on AMP in Bios. Otherwise it defaults to 2400 (?)
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B350 Motherboard 3 months 3 weeks ago #15223

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Excellent!

One last thing, the ram (HX426C13SB2K2/8) is double sided and on the compatibility list with my motheboard it says single sided. Will I have problems?

Also, for double channel memory, MSI recommends to install them in slot 2 and 4 respectively. Look here for more details.

Thank you for the time answering me all the questions and I wish you all the best!
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B350 Motherboard 3 months 3 weeks ago #15224

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If your ram is listed it should be fine.

The motherboard manual will show you which dimm slots to use.
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