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Compatibility difference: Intel/AMD 2 months 2 weeks ago #15848

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I have a fair question that I cant find the answer.

What Intel can do that AMD cant? (Or barely..)
What AMD can do that Intel cant? (Or barely..)

I'm talking about softwares, games and other stuff like that.
Please take in consideration:
- Both "CPU" have the same core, speed and amount of thread.
- I dont care about Specs and Price and Heat.

Here a example that I know, but its AMD/Nvidia:
"There a 3D sculpting software called Blender3D. Blender3D has someting called "Cycles".
Nvidia can use Cycles. It make the art even more prettier. AMD cant Cycle."
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Compatibility difference: Intel/AMD 2 months 2 weeks ago #15853

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"What Intel can do that AMD cant? "

Do you mean the organisations or their products?
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Compatibility difference: Intel/AMD 2 months 2 weeks ago #15855

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The first thing that came to mind was Vulkan (successor to AMDs Mantle). Intel has patched in Vulkan support, but it's actually not that usefull and apparently results in worse performance then DirectX.

www.pcgamesn.com/intel/intel-vulkan-support

It's a very niche thing though, as not many games have Vulkan support and I expect most gamers to be using a dedicated GPU of some sorts.

I don't think there's much (if any) software that can't be used either way. Because they have to be compatible to what's on the market, both have a lot in common - like x86, AVX, etc. and the stuff that's different (like AMDs SMT vs Intels HT) is mostly due to copyright and performs similar enough on both sides to the point where I would call it even/the same.

A lot of software is optimized for Intel/Nvidia because they dominate the market and products are mostly aimed at the biggest possible market/customer base - but it rarely leads to incompatability: More often then not, it's just a bit performance or a niche-feature and sometimes what AMD might lack in optimisation, it often makes good in brute-force.

Are those "cycles" you mention not GPU spefific? I thought we are looking for CPU?
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Compatibility difference: Intel/AMD 2 months 2 weeks ago #15856

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You should compare their specs. But you need to do that with specific CPUs -

i7 7700k - ark.intel.com/products/97129/Intel-Core-...Cache-up-to-4_50-GHz

R7 1700 - www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-1700

Sometimes I think they present this information differently to each other so you can't clearly compare.

But it's not just the CPUs, its also the chipsets eg X370 vs X270.
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Compatibility difference: Intel/AMD 2 months 1 week ago #15866

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I see I see...

"Cycle" Was for an example of the difference I was looking for into CPU.
Cycle is GPU based. ..I think? In both cases. its way better to render with a GPU
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Compatibility difference: Intel/AMD 2 months 1 week ago #15867

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Cycle? Instructions per Clock? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Rendering - whether you can use a GPU depends on the software. Sometimes its only with CUDA (nVidia). Sometimes its with Open CL (amd and nvidia). In video production there is some stuff that only the CPU does - not the GPU.
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